tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21973613.post4317660589445300947..comments2007-09-23T07:40:55.727-07:00Jacehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00363262167315655610jace@televisionaryblog.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21973613.post-72602689337984934142007-09-23T07:40:55.727-07:002007-09-23T07:40:55.727-07:00Bit late with my two penneth, but I still find the main flaw the fact that these brilliant attorneys seem incapable of arranging a test of the blood that was plastered over Ellen and would corroborate her story when it was shown not to be David's.<BR/><BR/>I know that would kill the story, but this is an audience accustomed to watching CSI, where pretty much any crime can be solved by hitting the enter key on the lab computer and waiting a few seconds for a match and the face of the villain to pop up.<BR/><BR/>The other bit of poor casting - or was it poor writing - was Ellen's assistant, who was just too hapless and useless, or maybe that was the point, he was like a cute puppy and it was all the more cruel/ruthless/Patty-like to put him down.<BR/><BR/>Otherwise, great show as always! Does anyone know, btw, how many episodes this is slated to run for in its first season? When can we expect to get our questions answered?terralingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21973613.post-70440051893015172152007-09-22T21:11:41.682-07:002007-09-22T21:11:41.682-07:00Exegete: <I>Perhaps a skill learned at the bad boys concentration camp?</I><BR/><BR/>Or working for a catering company or in a restaurant, I wonder?Gusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21973613.post-89096533456515657732007-09-20T11:11:50.754-07:002007-09-20T11:11:50.754-07:00Am I the only one who thinks it's obvious that the Stalker Girl from the hospital killed David?<BR/><BR/>She comes over, he lets her in, she sees the ring and makes a move on David. He rebuffs her, she gets violent, they struggle and she kills him and put him in the bathtub because that's where she saw him and Ellen. That's where she sees his "betrayal" of her.<BR/><BR/>I can see where Ellen would think "They went looking for me at my apartment first. Oh no, what if they hurt David?" but really that's much much too pat for this show.Gowanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14846375703268856000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21973613.post-61622476971364688712007-09-20T06:34:58.587-07:002007-09-20T06:34:58.587-07:00My wild-ass guess is that Frobisher is the dead man Ellen and David mention. I think that'd be interesting.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if the person at the door is someone David knows. We didn't see much reaction, but if David knew Ellen was going to Patty's, perhaps it was someone he knew who got him to tell them.sksthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05215548041691636387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21973613.post-45692924266042114892007-09-19T22:15:35.968-07:002007-09-19T22:15:35.968-07:00I agree that the episode started on just the right note with Michael's perfect breakfast. For me, all of the interesting "plot" on this show is psychological. Are we to believe that Michael has really changed; did Patty win the battle or the war by sending him to camp? <BR/><BR/>I don't think you can say that Patty is any one thing--ruthless or self-serving, or heartless.1 What makes this show good is that everyone, except Frobisher who is evil incarnate, is morally ambiguous. That's what made the Soprano's good. The scene with Patty at Larry's house: that had the same emotional punch as a gangster slaying.<BR/><BR/>Ellen is getting in touch with her shadow--a shadow that has been brewing since she was born probably. Patty did not invent that side of Ellen so much as draw it out. With parents like that, any kid would develop a serious dark side. That poor assistant was caught in the crossfire of her id and superego.Very Mark McCormickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13926060394754546366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21973613.post-77906929515114796942007-09-19T16:16:50.108-07:002007-09-19T16:16:50.108-07:00I can't believe Frobisher's dealings with Larry! And the fact that he still met with him even after Fiske's warning. Is he really that dumb? Or so arrogant that he thinks he's untouchable? (I'd say the latter.)<BR/><BR/>It was great watching Ellen transform from a sweet girl into an icy Patty clone this week. Her assistant totally deserved to be fired but the way she did it was so cold. <BR/><BR/>I don't mind the storyline with Ellen's parents but do agree that they should have been cast better. It's just odd because the rest of the casting is so pitch perfect.Daniellehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10740136455186963797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21973613.post-65168709128500194802007-09-19T14:30:49.611-07:002007-09-19T14:30:49.611-07:00Did anyone else notice the fine breakfast that Patty's son made for himself? The presentation was fabulous. Patty and husband are sitting there eating bland meals, watching television. Patty's eyes were averted to her son briefly but I thought she would have noticed his plate. Perhaps a skill learned at the bad boys concentration camp?Exegetehttp://www.fastidium.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21973613.post-74142147697241980182007-09-19T14:14:31.293-07:002007-09-19T14:14:31.293-07:00Frobisher and pride - Art Frobisher is ALL ABOUT pride. So is Patty Hewes. And that fact becomes clearer every week. Frobisher can't see past his pride and of course, as in all tragedies, that will be his downfall. And yeah, he clearly thinks he's above the law too. Very O.J.<BR/><BR/>Ellen's parents were brought in to show that they wouldn't be able to bail Ellen out -- I think that's the only reason for their presence.<BR/><BR/>I loved the twist of finding out who Baby Carriage Man is and that he was an SEC official. Really good twist and I'm looking forward to seeing how he plays Tom Shays and Ellen.difihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03748808369887673874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21973613.post-40649683806232323652007-09-19T11:44:43.979-07:002007-09-19T11:44:43.979-07:00Agree on all points left above...<BR/><BR/>Ellen's parents don't even look like they could pass as her parents. I know adopted kids who look more like their parents than that.<BR/><BR/>Larry and Art were extremely but what was even more so was the way Fiske was talking down to Fro (as Televisionary reader Ally refers to him). It was like watching my dad yell at my brother!<BR/><BR/>But the point that still remains to be addressed...<BR/><BR/>Who's baby did George Moore (nee BCM) have in that carriage the night he originally appeared?Pearlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21973613.post-40410466427389629672007-09-19T10:27:03.657-07:002007-09-19T10:27:03.657-07:00UGH i had this whole comment ready to post and then IE crashed. <BR/><BR/>anyway. Ellen's parents seem so one-dimensional to me. It's like they were not only hastily written in, but hastily cast as well. Like an afterthought. They seem almost cliched. I'd have a better time believing David Caruso in the dad's role. <BR/><BR/>BCM, or as my husband calls him, Boon from <I>Animal House.</I> There must be more to him than just being an SEC official. I just don't buy that for some reason. He's too shady and too slippery with his fingers in too many pies for that. Is he going to actually spill the beans on Fiskie getting frisky with Greg?<BR/><BR/>Jace, what do you think?<BR/><BR/>Ellen was totally right in firing her dolt of an assistant. I can understand him making a nervous mistake or two, but this guy was totally inept. Yeah, she pulled a bit of a Patty by firing him the way she did, but the guy was such a complete moron that he deserved it. And plus I thought it was kind of hot that Ellen became a little viperish. Now if only she could do that with David.....<BR/><BR/>Speaking of David, I wonder what Soda Skank is up to? There has to be more to her than what we've seen.<BR/><BR/>God, waiting a week for the next episode<I>kills</I> me. Moreso than Lost!!!Janehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17843723364766762117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21973613.post-13769867245639364452007-09-19T10:12:16.962-07:002007-09-19T10:12:16.962-07:00"Perhaps he hasn't heard of obstruction of justice, even if Larry does remind him of his father. (I thought that scene was perhaps the creepiest of the night for some reason.)" <BR/><BR/>Yes, totally the creepiest scene of the night, and so, so good. But I don't believe for a second that Larry really DOES remind Fro of his father. I thought it was yet another tactic to try and keep dim Larry on his side. <BR/><BR/>The scene of Patty going to Larry's house was brilliant. <BR/><BR/>I happen to love the actress who is playing Ellen's mom, but not so much on this. :)allynoreply@blogger.com